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In a modern, digitalised and multidimensional Bundeswehr (German armed forces), the collaborative leadership approach is actually the key element. This does not exclude the former but it fundamentally complements it.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>CB<\/strong><\/em> Leadership in the military means responsibility for human lives in extreme situations. How does this shape your personal leadership style?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CB<\/strong> Directly. We are designing a system for combat. That\u2019s why the capacity for rapid decision-making must always be considered \u2013 not when designing this system, but when deploying it. The protection of our own people and the need to make decisions that affect life and death must be taken into account within digitally managed structures as well as in classic combat training. Both are always present at the same time, in every decision-making situation.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>CB<\/strong><\/em> You are responsible for innovation in an organisation that values reliability above all else. How do you create spaces where new things can emerge?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CB<\/strong> By defining experimental spaces \u2013 sandboxes \u2013 explicitly from the outset. The path to reliability leads through experimentation. You take new technologies, let them interact, make mistakes, learn from them and improve the system. This is common practice in any techno- logical development. We are pushing this forward by bringing researchers, developers and innovators directly into contact with the troops \u2013 so that realities of deployment are taken into account from the outset. A single weapon system never works without logistics, without command and control, without the troops understand- ing how it interacts with other systems. All of this has to be practised and tested. And it must be said that this never just works perfectly from the start.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>CB<\/strong><\/em> What does the war in Ukraine tell us about the future of combat \u2013 and about the importance of techno- logical innovation?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CB<\/strong> It shows the asymmetrical effect that small, highly specialised units with access to new technologies can have. There are very small units in Ukraine that use the latest technologies and innovations directly in combat \u2013 perhaps two to three per cent of the troops. And yet around 80 per cent of the so-called kill rate comes from precisely these units. This changes the whole picture. At the same time, the remaining 95 to 98 per cent, who ensure logistics, leadership and supplies, are just as indispensable. The system only works as a whole. But the lead decides.<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"blockquote","text":"\u2018In combat, you also fight with digital means. What used to be decided on the spot with one\u2019s hands, eyes and mind is now enhanced by digital collaboration.\u2019","source":""},{"acf_fc_layout":"text_area","text_area":"<p><em><strong>CB<\/strong><\/em> What skills will Bundeswehr leaders need to have in the future \u2013 in view of AI, autonomous systems and accelerating innovation cycles?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CB<\/strong> First of all, a basic under- standing of technology \u2013 not at the developer level, but at the decision-maker level. Artificial intelligence is not self-sufficient; it is shaped by the programmer and thus influenced by humans. Understanding how systems interact with each other and with human decision-makers is essential knowledge that leaders at every level must have. Added to this is an understanding of flat hierarchies. And finally, the willingness to grow with technology rather than resist it. Because only those who grow together with technology develop genuine trust in it.<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"blockquote","text":"\u2018Around 80 per cent of the Ukrainian so called kill rate comes from two to three per cent of the troops \u2013 those units equipped with the latest technologies.\u2019","source":""},{"acf_fc_layout":"text_area","text_area":"<p><em><strong>CB<\/strong><\/em> Innovation has a lot to do with creativity \u2013 a term that is rarely associated with military leadership. Rightly so?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CB<\/strong> That\u2019s a loaded question. Since when are military personnel not creative? Actually, we embody creativity. The only question is: does the system allow for creativity? From financial resources to institutional trust, the conditions must allow it. And so much has changed in recent years that there are virtually no limits. One of our core tasks at the Innovation Centre is precisely that: to give this creativity free rein, to give it space and to do so systematically. We don\u2019t just take ideas on board, we assign them to the channels where they are most effective. Creativity has always been a means for soldiers to gain an the upper hand over their opponents.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>CB<\/strong><\/em> If you had to redefine leadership for future generations, what role would creativity play?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CB<\/strong> An immensely important one. But this creativity should not only manifest itself in a military context, that is important to me. It should apply equally in every area. It is what sustains and upholds an entire society. And that is perhaps the crucial idea in this historic turning point: security and innovation, reliability and creativity, defence and social resilience \u2013 these are not opposites. They are two sides of the same coin.<\/p>\n"},{"acf_fc_layout":"blockquote","text":"\u2018The scientific community in Germany is now opening up to cooperation that would have been unthinkable just a few years ago. This is also a consequence of the changing times.\u2019","source":""},{"acf_fc_layout":"text_area","text_area":"<p>Rear Admiral <strong>CHRISTIAN BOCK<\/strong> has been head of the Bundeswehr Innovation Centre (IZBw) since February 2025. 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