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Leslie Winer doesn\u2019t feel like talking about herself. It\u2019s the month leading up to the 10-years-in-the-making compilation <\/span>When I Hit You \u2013 You\u2019ll Feel It<\/span><\/i>, a much needed assessment of her musical peregrinations, tracks scattered into the wind and left behind over a three decade period, at last brought together in a single package. Even on a good day, Winer was never one to play the game of \u2018chatty interviewee\u2019, but this has been a bad year for just about everyone, and a personal tragedy in her own life makes the void widen. \u201cYes, I\u2019m having a hard time right now \u2013 my life being somewhat more wavy than usual, like a lot of people,\u201d she writes via email. \u201cI\u2019m just going to write down some words \u2013 don\u2019t hesitate to ask for clarification or more questions.\u201d My email interview with her spans a week and it turns out to be the only interview she\u2019ll conduct.<\/span><\/p>\n

Given that words remain her primary comfort, it\u2019s fitting Winer is turning to writing during these hard times. Growing up, it was her adopted grandmother who instilled in her a love for language that continues today, where Winer relies on her glasses and a magnifying glass to read (most recently Rudolph Wurlitzer\u2019s <\/span>Hard Travel to Sacred Places<\/span><\/i> [1995]). I ask if she is <\/span>the<\/span><\/i> Leslie that Beat grandfather William S. Burroughs mentions in a diary entry dated December 15, 1996 published in <\/span>Last Words<\/span><\/i> (2000): \u201cMany spiritual disciplines establish as a prerequisite of advancement the attainment of silence. Rub out the word \u2026 rub out the word \u2013 laughable if you will, Leslie.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

At the mention of her old mentor \u2013 who lent her <\/span>The Egyptian Book of the Dead<\/span><\/i>, Wallis Budge, Denton Welch, Marguerite Duras, and encouraged her own writing \u2013 her heart quickens: \u201cFelt that moment of frisson, something like when the world stands still & somehow weirder for a sec like certain polaroids \u2013 not a Big big deal but notable, like you do when you\u2019re pretty sure that <\/span>that\u2019s<\/span><\/i> a \u201971 Chevy Nova, but you want that game show confirmation feeling \u2013 those snare drums. That Roar. <\/span>Those<\/span><\/i> Chemicals.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

That rush of snares, chemicals; that body-quivering roar; that pursuit of the visceral and transcendent has been Winer\u2019s engine throughout life. It\u2019s a career that\u2019s led Winer to bond with the likes of Burroughs and ur-Beat Herbert Huncke, as well as a career modelling for the likes of Valentino, Dior, Westwood and Gaultier (you might have caught a glimpse of her alongside Harry Styles in a recent campaign for Gucci, too). But it\u2019s the intersection of words and beats that became her real thrill.<\/span><\/p>\n

Modelling in NYC starting in the late-Seventies, by the time the Eighties rolled around, she was deep into music, dancing at the Roxy, catching ESG and Spoonie Gee live, hanging with graffiti artists and earning the tag \u201c3375537\u201d along the way, rolling up into the Bronx to hear Hip-Hop booming at asphalt level. Her boyfriend at the time was Jean-Michel Basquiat. \u201cAre you pronouncing a hard \u2018t\u2019 in \u2018Basquiat\u2019? Like chalk on a board. At the time, in NY, one of us would have to hide if we were trying to get a cab. It was like that. Didn\u2019t matter which one of us \u2013 it was when we were together that no cabbie would stop,\u201d she writes, admitting that she still owns the one record Basquiat produced, <\/span>Beat Bop (1983)<\/span><\/i> featuring Rammellzee and K-Rob: \u201cI have one framed record in my house (here) & it\u2019s the funk, the funk, the funky beat \u2026 shake it up rodeo \u2026 Love Rammell still.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Modelling took Winer to London, where she came into possession of her own Akai 1000 sampler, allowing her to apply NYC\u2019s Hip-Hop aesthetic and London\u2019s booming African-Caribbean culture to her own music. She began to practice doing vocals to Gee Street singles and started working with Renegade Soundwave\u2019s Karl Bonnie, former PiL bassist Jah Wobble, and Boy George backing singer Helen Terry, along with a clutch of other players. Winer was the hub, but preferred anonymity, hence an artist name that combines the Ouroboros symbol and \u00a9. \u201cMy little experience being asked about my music is mostly people trying to find out whether my so-called connection with Burroughs or Basquiat is real,\u201d she writes. \u201cNever fails: I\u2019m on the dock being cross-examined from the git-go [sic]. Then the part of how I look. Check. Then the \u2018who really made This Music?\u2019 part. AKA: How did this monkey make this pretty good cup of tea?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

Winer\u2019s cadence is still so strong and singular that even on a glowing screen, I \u2013 or any of her fans \u2013 can instantly recognise her low, glib growl. There\u2019s no space or separation between herself and her performance; they are one. That distinct quality of self runs throughout <\/span>When I Hit You<\/span><\/i>. No matter the music: dobro guitar, Irish jigs, classic breakbeats, H. Norman Schwarzkopf Jr. press conferences, the Sleng Teng riddim, modern classical, all of it goes into the chipper, giving Winer ample space in which to muse atop the debris. \u201cFor me, it\u2019s the making of the tracks that\u2019s the fun part. No matter how carefully I plan it out in my head, it\u2019s never like I thought it would be. Always seem to choose the \u2018surprise me\u2019 option. It\u2019s a game that I like,\u201d she writes.<\/span><\/p>\n

Her words can be heard as stream-of-consciousness, embedded with countless allusions to other songs, references, poses struck. But how does she explain the line \u201cI got a couple of drops of Indian blood\u201d, sung on <\/span>Dunderhead<\/span><\/i> (2011), released years before she realised that she actually is related to Grand Chief Henri Membertou of the Mi’kmaq First Nations tribe? And what about the words \u201cThere was a strange virus on the loose\u201d, uttered on <\/span>The Boy Who Used to Whistle<\/span><\/i> (1993), which seem to foreshadow the current pandemic?<\/span><\/p>\n

Leslie Winer deflects attention away from herself one last time: \u201cI don\u2019t see myself having to describe it. At gunpoint. That\u2019s what it does, what it\u2019s for, maybe; carries information that we don\u2019t exactly have words for. Ferryman style. Make it hail.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

Written by Andy Beta<\/em><\/p>\n

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